I attended the Celanese "Technology Day" today. I was hoping to get more upbeat on their U.S. Ethanol opportunity, but that looks like a longer-term driver due to political constraints. On the other hand, turning coal to ethanol works real well in China and Indonesia, so it remains an exciting intermediate-term driver.
My biggest takeaway is that this is a company that goes way beyond commodity chemicals, as I expected. The company seems to have two competitive advangtages: Technology and customer collaboration. Surely, these are overstated to some degree as being unique - Albemarle says the same thing. Ultimately, this is an improving industry in general - these specialty chemical companies are getting their products designed into their customer products, which smooths earnings over time and should ultimately boost the value. The last thing you want to do is buy a stock at 9 PE and find out it's really 20 PE!
Sometimes, it's the Q&A at the end where you learn the most. I learned a lot speaking with their employees who explained how the company's competitive position is improving and how the company is growing and changing, and and I also enjoyed listening to management to get a better understanding of what the real opportunities might be. For instance, I now know the difference between EVA and VAE (it's the amount of vinyl acetate relative to ethylene). The Q&A at the end, though, told me what concerns investors. It seems one of the big issues has been the debt level, but they have worked this down and will continue to do so. More bothersome, it seems, is the fact that the company has several JVs, leading to a lack of transparency (the net profits are realized, but analysts don't get to look under the hood).
I think CE is very attractive and a good value. I may add it to my watchlist, though I already have ALB, which is not a competitor but quite a similar investment. I think that it can trade in a decent environment at 9X EV/EBITDA, perhaps more. This suggests that the future price performance will depend on earnings growth to about the same degree as valuation changes, as CE trades near 7.5X. Based on the numbers getting hit (i.e. the analysts are right), the stock has 30-35% upside, so not bad. The real opportunity is that the analysts are more conservative than the company. So, I don't have a definitive call here, but I wanted to pass along how I spent my morning. Now, I need to catch up - APOG call must have gone well, and the MASI Investor Day too...